[網摘]遙相呼應的言論自由
[網摘]遙相呼應的言論自由
Rebecca MacKinnon:"I am not saying that this situation justifies censorship in any way. But if you're Chinese, you’re not going to get anywhere by openly defying or opposing it. Instead, people are creatively making the best of the situation."
只說：「也许只说接触技术比较多，总觉得看封锁的文章呀，看普通浏览器无法访问的站点呀，这是技术可以解决的问题，手段不仅仅是换IP和代理服务器，但再复杂一点也都是个人可以解决的问题，麻烦一点而已。」
Rebecca MacKinnon: "The majority of Chinese users and pretty much all web entrepreneurs believe that the Chinese Web 2.0 must remain as un-political as possible in order to develop, spread, and innovate."
只說：「其实只说觉得中国的经济问题要比政治问题严重多了。所以谈政治都是轻易的。能让十五亿人的80%吃饱饭是不易的，也绝对不是一两篇文章能解决的问题，更不是三五年能解决的问题。」
Rebecca MacKinnon: "Since people in China have never been free to express their political views in public, not being able to do so in cyberspace isn't actually viewed as a sacrifice."
只說：「我觉得人生而不平等且不自由，政府应该做更多努力废除户籍制度，给农民生路。这要用很长时间，当然也会做出很多错误判断，走很多弯路。但是言论自由和这些东西比起来太微不足道了，都是人们应该自己解决的。」
Rebecca MacKinnon: "So they're a bit bewildered that the Western media focuses mainly on that portion of speech that remains forbidden, while from the Chinese perspective the story is a very positive one about how they're saying and doing more than ever before."
只說：「这可能和后来的64还不太一样，因为都是因为偷东西，或者找一些别的小错，杀的人，人民们可能也恍惚得很，甚至偶尔会大快人心。但是现在不会因为偷东西送命了，我觉得比从前已经进步了很多....就说这么多，总之，有一点是事实，那就是中国存在言论管制，但是我希望国内以及国外的朋友们不要把这个作为人民面临的主要问题。」
原文出處：
Chinese Bloggers: "Everybody is Somebody"
再谈gfw
延伸閱讀：
文章上了Wired杂志
总要有人告诉这世界另一些真相
Confessions of a Dissident
BBC's Interview
Comments (3)
呵呵，這言論也能加在一起，太有趣了。
Posted by 只说 | November 9, 2005 6:40 PM
Posted on November 9, 2005 18:40
我還真以為你們兩位商量過了才各自寫各自的文章呢！
Posted by Portnoy | November 10, 2005 4:28 AM
Posted on November 10, 2005 04:28
Rebecca MacKinnon: "Since people in China have never been free to express their political views in public, not being able to do so in cyberspace isn't actually viewed as a sacrifice."
只說：「我觉得人生而不平等且不自由，政府应该做更多努力废除户籍制度，给农民生路。这要用很长时间，当然也会做出很多错误判断，走很多弯路。但是言论自由和这些东西比起来太微不足道了，都是人们应该自己解决的。」
these paragraphs are not as corresponding as they looked. lemme try to translate sayonly's paragraph:
sayonly: I felt the human beings are born unequal and not free, therefore the government should effort more on eliminating the HuKou (sorry that there's such a word in the western world, maybe something like a Working Permit?) to save the farmer's life. During the procedure there could be some mistakes and lots of wrong judgement. Comparing with this importance (of saving the farmers), the problem of free speech is the people's own problem.
This is already a kind of political view (and in public). I'll add some of my own point of view as an interpretation - look how everybody could interpret the free speech - people are born unequal and not free economically: it's like a buddhism tradition. You don't have anything when you come to this world - no nothing, no choice, no education (by CCP or by Berkeley). In Chinese culture there's such a thing of being thankful for what you get from this world. So the sub-content-context is that everything you could rely on is yourself. That's how average Chinese learnt not to take everything for granted. Nah, the government is not in the consideration at all yet - if they did something good, then they have good method and we thank them. If they did something bad - fuck them but the 10manyzeros people gotta to live on, right?
So lot of people are born in the countryside of China, they haven't being asked - if they have a choice, it must okay to be born in a lawyer family in New York. Being able to drink cocktail and talk shits in this society. How about to be a kid growing up in the People's Park? Wait lemme take my medicines first. Wow that feels wonderful, too! Please remember that everybody only got several dozens' years to live. We're probably not born so educated as the government's officers are, so why bother start a logic fight with them while i could enjoy my life or while i have to struggle my life out? It would be a total waste of life. Once i got the chance to do some free speech, i'll tell the government to legitimite the prostistute industry - it's certainly made me feel better to fuck a prostistute than to fuck the government.
Sorry very much for the dirty word - it's only a sample of free speech. It is free so it cannot be perfect, just like life itself. Since people asked for free speech (supposing Rebecca is not asking it for herself), then someone gotta listen to the free speech, you know what, the government would not care it at all since they know nobody would listen at all. That's how the free speech became jabbered word - the one who would listen to it only listen to it to manipulate it.
Posted by nicotinestain | November 10, 2005 5:18 AM
Posted on November 10, 2005 05:18